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Bernie DeKoven August 8, 2011 at 2:26 pm

Wonderful post! Thanks so much for the clear thinking and having people like Paul in your circle.

I’ve a few links you might enjoy, and even find relevant: this one – http://www.deepfun.com/fun/2008/05/homo-ludens-ludens-of-play-and-games/ – and this – http://www.deepfun.com/fun/2010/01/of-play-and-games/ – and maybe this – http://www.deepfun.com/fun/2011/01/more-about-fun-and-games/

Sayraphim August 15, 2011 at 8:28 am

Hi Bernie! Lovely to meet you! Thanks for linking those posts, they were really interesting. Lots of things to think about…

Alison Richards August 14, 2011 at 1:34 am

Hi Sayra,

Just hopped on to snaffle the onion orange marmalade (chutney?) recipe, before the last of the oranges are gone from the tree. I’ll let you know how I go!

I enjoyed your little piece on game conditions – as far as I can see, the line between ‘free play’ and games is fairly fluid. Formal games can be highly coded, which is when ‘win conditions’ and suchlike come in. Those sorts of games depend on all players knowing the rules, and that in turn generates all sorts of ‘subgame plays’ in terms of strategy and tactics, attempts to bend or break the rules and arguments about policing them.

Other games are more thematic and vary in terms of how rule-bound they become. Sometimes it’s fun to play around with rules, to stick with them, change or break them aka ‘gaming the game’. The Big Rule here – or is it just a criterion? is ‘Am I/are we having fun now?’ Mothers learn to keep a game going because the kids are having fun, even if it’s one they’ve played a million times before. And so on.

I reckon the ultimate point of any game is to have fun, pass the time, generate engagement and avert boredom and irritation. Also maybe to learn something, in a fun way.

Driving games are a special case – the one you’ve made up sounds fun, but there are a million others from ‘I Spy’ to making up silly numberplate words, even just counting how many red cars you see … many years ago I was travelling from Melbourne to Geelong every day. A friend and I used to share the trip when we could and we’d pass the time playing counting games. Rabbits, geese, pelicans, pink trees … my friend died a few years ago and now when I make that trip I remember the games and I think of her …

Alison
PS: My Monash email cut out again on Friday, I’m hoping it can be resolved this week. Grrr! Now speaking of cures for frustration – back to the onions and oranges!

Sayraphim August 15, 2011 at 8:32 am

A couple of awesome sentences in there Alison! I love “The Big Rule here – or is it just a criterion? is ‘Am I/are we having fun now?’” and “I reckon the ultimate point of any game is to have fun, pass the time, generate engagement and avert boredom and irritation.”

They’re both beautiful, thank you for contributing them! And I hope the chutney turns out lovely. We love it on eggs.

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